30-06 trail boss load

I just found something very interesting i found a TRAIL BOSS load for 30-06 on hodgdons website its on there data center for a 150 nosler BT 13.3g-19g at alittle over 1000 fps bottom and almost 1500 fps top end that would be a blast to shoot very low presure i wonder how the accuracy would be and if youd have to use poly fill to keep the powder down on the primer? i know that trail boss has very good case fill with its donut shaped grains id like to try it i may have to buy a pound to try it out!

I shoot a lot of TB in my .45-70 and .45 LC with mild loads. While TB was designed as a powder for plain base lead bullets, it works just fine with plated bullets demanded by the indoor ranges as well.

I love the TB for light plinking loads for my .45 LC Vaquero. With the density of the powder you do not have as much worry of a double charge unlike using Bullseye.

Some day I will own a lever action carbine in .45 LC as well and with pistol and carbine in same caliber, it will be a nice rig to walk fence lines looking for scruffy 'yote to bust.

In my Marlin 1895 SSGG the TB loads are real pleasant to shoot. The TB burns clean and does not smoke too bad unlike my other standby Bullseye.

I have not loaded TB in any bottle knecked cartridge yet, but there are several web sites that list TB loads.

In my .45-70, and .444 Marlin the TB loads are held to the bottom of the case with the same TP trick that I use when loading any small powder charge in a large case. The large straight cases makes stuffing the TP even easier as you don't have to squeeze it past the bottle kneck and then make sure it expands.

Another trick I use is to get some of the BP vegetable fiber wads or cards and use those to hold the powder charge down.

I recently started using Walter's Wads from Midway in .44 and .45 caliber and have not noticed any difference in shooting or barrel fouling.

Track of the Wolf (http://www.trackofthewolf.com/Index.aspx?as=1) has a lot of BP loading supplies that work great with TB. The fiber wads and even the felt wads work great for me with TB.

However, do not get the lubed felt or wool wads as TB is even more picky than BP with getting fouled by overzealous application of bore butter.

If I need to (usually I do not) I might put a smidgeon of Imperial or DW's lube on the side of a wad to ease it sliding down the cartridge.

I have some .444 Marlin that I just loaded with vegetable fiber wads slicked with a mere hint of DW's lube and a healthy charge of TB under a Nosler 340 gr soft point bullet. I am looking forward to shooting them.

This will be the first time I have shot a TB load with a vegetable fiber wad in a barrel with a muzzle break. It will be interesting to see if the wad clears the break. Since it is a single shot I will be sure the check and clear the barrel each time.

BTW does anybody know of a source for bulk BP vegetable fiber sheets?

I have plenty of punches to cut my own but seem to have a hard time finding bulk material to punch myself.

Well the .444 Marlin loads shot well with the veggy fiber wads and a stiff charge of TB.

I was also shooting some .375 JDJ with a charge of 58 gr of 4895 under a 220 gr Sierra JSP.

Some of the guys were using Cream of Wheat to take up the case volume not used by light powder charges.

Some of the experts recommend a charge of 8 gr or so of Bullseye topped with a case-stuffing load of Cream of Wheat for fireforming.

I guess a lot of the Cream of Wheat does not burn as the tweety birds were quite happy. The Junkos and Nuthatches were quite busy eating all the unburnt cereal.

I have punched a lot of fiber wads for shot gun from cardboard. works just as well as the veggie stuff which by the way it is. I've used old shoe boxes almost anything. Used to be you could cut down a shotgun wad but they are rare as hens teeth these days. check out the building supply stores i have also used insulation board for a "fiber wad" it works ok. but compresses a lot.

I was also looking at some of the bulk gasket material used in the old steam plants to seal flanges between the pipes.

that would be good but be careful as some of that stuff contains asbestos

From what I can tell when I was at Ace Hardware yesterday, the stuff with asbestos you cannot buy over the counter or in small pieces. None of the stuff at Ace mentioned asbestos in the ingredients.

Asbestos is highly regulated now due to all the cases of mesothelioma (sp?) here stemming from Asarco and the other smelters we had until the mid '70s.

I remember the stuff when I worked on post with the steam plants had asbestos in the insulation, but I do not remember asbestos in the flange gasket material.

I load a lot of TB and have found that the BP wads and cards make loading it a little easier. While TB was made for plain base bullets, by using a BP over powder wad you can keep light charges against the primer and not worry as much about gas cutting the bullet.

I use a lot of cardboard milk cartons & frozen food containers to make wads for BP and shot shell loading. I use to shoot a lot of the old T/C Contender .44 Hot Shot loads with #8 shot. They were great for flying rats and starlings in the barns that crapped all over our farm equipment.

I have been experimenting with using TB with Speer shot cups, but maybe that is a topic for another thread.

.30-06 TB loads is OK but I prefer to use TB in the old BP cartridges like .45-70, .38-40, .45 LC, etc.

i am sure that anything you can buy now would be asbestos free. but should you run across old stuff for steam valves i can almost guarantee it has asbestos in it. just be careful but you are right that stuff would make great wads.

this is the place I buy my shotgun veggie wads at....

http://www.circlefly.com/html/products.html

lest batch I bought was $7.50 per 1000

that needs to be on a sticky. thanks KC

Kcatto, there is a stickie in the world of reloading for links of interest you can add that too if you like... That way you get credit for the post..

Hey that is awsome. Looks like they have wads in just about every size I need for loading TB.

Some products may still contain asbestos, But are using the terminology
Canadian Fibers. It is still big business up there.

Damn, those Canadians, eh? Importing such a toxic substance!

Well maybe I am shooting asbestos as several of the gasket material I picked up at Ace were made in Canada. I hope that the cork gasket material I am using does not contain asbestos, & I would doubt it.

Asbestos mining is still big business, but I thought the products had to be marked clearly if it contained asbestos?

"Canadian fibers" makes me think of moose or beaver fur, not asbestos.

I still do not think that TB in a .30-06 is the best bang for the $. I would believe that "The Load" would be more economical for plinking or recoil sensitive shooters.

I was shooting some of my TB .444 Marlin loads today using some of these home cut fiber cards. At 75' (the farthest the indoor range goes) they grouped about 3".

.444 Marlin out of 14" barrel has some bark to it, even stuffed with TB.